DBMM 200: Yorkists vs Medieval Franch - posted by Joel McNelly, 9 July 2022

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DBMM 200 at the Dury club against James Davies.

My Yorkists vs his medieval French.

Round 1 my plan was to set up up a table with secured flanks like Agincort or Crecy as that worked historically against the French.

Big problem is in a battle where you only have to go forward that's the one thing French knights are good at and WOTR don't have as many longbows.

The French screened their knights with bowmen to shield them from the English longbows and attacked.

I rolled poorly in the bow shootout and lost some critical stands of longbows. My lines became disrupted then the French knights came charging through the archers and smashed into my disordered lines and quickly overwhelmed them. The game was a decicive French victory.

Round 2 I positioned my terrain features better. I extended my lines in front of a wood and planned to hold my right flank back, wheel my left and try to draw them into a crossfire.

The French occupied the wood with archers and organised a column of knights to ride round the wood and attack my flank.

I decided to try to exploit the fact the French plan required a lot of pips by dismounting my CnC and knights and attacking the wood, hoping to take the position before the French knights came round my left flank.

The French were short on pips and made a poorly co-ordinate attack on my right which took heavy casualties from bow and cannon fire. The game looked like it was in the bag until the flanking French knights got themselves organised and rode down my CnC who didnt make the sprint to to wood in time. By killing him and one stand of men at arms it made my left flank one stand off breaking.

I won the game but my decision to dismount the CnC and run across the table almost cost me the game.

Lesson for today: when there are French knights around don't get your general off his horse and try to run across the field in full plate!!!!!

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• Russell Briant

  Thanks for the battle reports.

  I think War of the Roses knights can chose to dismount during the game. So, you could have ridden your Chief across the to the woods then dismounted once in the woods. Good plan none-the-less.

  

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    Russell Briant I started mounted then dismounted. I had 6 pips that turn (2 per Knight). I dismounted early bacause I didn't want to get caught under bow fire infornt of the woods on my horses with no pips later.....

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    • Russell Briant

      Joel McNelly fair enough.

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      Russell Briant that was my thought process but as I said, it was a bad decision that almost cost me the game.....

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• Jose Garcia

  Hello, really a nice thing with dbmm 200, not so many minis. Can you put in a sample list of both poor, I would be interested in the cost of the generals. Greeting

  

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    Jose Garcia I can't speak for the French but I was running:

    Cnc knO

    Ally General knO

    2x KnI

    8 Bw S

    6 BdO

    2 Art I

    2 Cv O

    3 Pk F

    2 Ps S

    My Cnc was 22 points

    My ally general was 17 points

    My list was organised with the ally general commanding: 2Cv, 4Bw, 3Bd. Wverything else under the Cnc.

    

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    Jose Garcia Medieval French Bk 4 List 64:

    

    

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  • James Davies

    The rule changes for the 200 point game are on page 48 of the soft-cover version of DBMM 2.1. Basically, smaller table size with corresponding changes to terrain rules and deployment zones, halve (round up) the minima and maxima from lists, 9except gen… 

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• Geoff Rothwell

  Interesting pics! I very much like 200 points as an army size.

  

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  • Joel McNelly

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    Geoff Rothwell yes we are really enjoying it. As this was 9nly our 3rd game the smaller size is particularly good as we learn the rules.

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  Vincent Cholewa

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  Superior knights rock. Vive la France!

  

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  • Joel McNelly

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    Vincent Cholewa those dammed things caused my no end of problems!!!!!

    

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      Vincent Cholewa

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      Joel McNelly my Polish have Kn(O) knights and Kn(S) generals. The generals, with a kind die roll or two,have done some spectacular things.