DBMM New Zealand : How do people deal with models hanging over bases?

How do people deal with models hanging over bases?

These are Victrix horses on 60x40 bases

I could off set them but it will look a little odd and probably so cause problems with lining bases up or bases them on deeper bass (how big of a problem is base deep being wrong)

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Josh Barton

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I angled them slightly and used 60x45mm bases.

They are a pain though. The victrix horses are far too big

Gregory Heyes

Josh Barton even though Victrix advertises itself as 28mm, they’re heroic 28mm(so more like 32’m foot to crown). And I think the DBX 28mm base sizes are more suited for 25mm minis.

Julian Hannam

Top contributor

We solved it with an extra 10mm base depth. We just recoil the normal depth though.

Julian Hannam

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Vincent Cholewa

Admin

Group expert

Julian Hannam Gavin Dodd, deeper bases are common for modern figures that are big even for 28mm. A quick chat before the game about how to manage recoils and other moves using a base depth and everyone is happy

Gavin Dodd

Author

Vincent Cholewa so I’m thinking 60x50 for my light horse and cavalry.

And standard 60x60 for knights fast in wedge.

I’m painting Alexander Macedonia list 12

Vincent Cholewa

Admin

Group expert

Wayne W.J. Watts uses deeper (I think 50mm) bases and has cunningly cut notches on the side of each to mark 40mm

Gavin Dodd

Author

Vincent Cholewa good idea

James Hook

Rising contributor

I tried angling the horses slightly so the tails fit between the horses following. Works OK until the unit behind is infantry.

James Hook

Rising contributor

Gavin Dodd

Author

James Hook what depth are these?

James Hook

Rising contributor

Gavin Dodd 40mm but the horses are Gripping Beast

Peter S. Tarasov

Use 80mm bases because scale creep has entailed 25mm to the top of the head becoming 28mm to the nose?

Andrew Bennetts

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Sadly, IMO the best solution is to avoid Victrix cavalry. The sculpts are superb and paint up well but the horses are just too big and too extravagantly posed for DBMM basing (or indeed ADLG). Next best is as others have suggested: some sort of marker (such as a notch) on a deeper base to indicate 40mm and to be sure to talk through with your opponent at the start of the game .

Gavin Dodd

Author

Andrew Bennetts any suggestions for brands? Plastic and price comparable

Ben Vartok

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Gavin Dodd Perry Miniatures have WOR horse sprues https://www.perry-miniatures.com/.../b-29-wars-of-the.../. Otherwise Warlord Games have Samurai and Pike n Shotte horse sprues. Thats just a quick search, might be others....

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Andrew Bennetts

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Gavin Dodd It depends on the period you are interested in. As Ben said, Perry are good for Late Medieval. Gripping Beast do Late Romans through Dark Ages and Conquest Games do some very cost effective Normans and Early Feudal Knights. You do get some overhang of heads and tails but nothing like Victrix problems. If you are after Classical armies (Greeks, Romans etc) there is not much outside Victrix in plastic although Wargames Atlantic do a set of riderless horses with generic tack that might be useful.

My Polybian Romans are Victrix infantry with metal cavalry from Aventine. Because you don’t need too many mounted, the increase in cost over plastic wasn’t enormous and the horses fit well on 40mm deep bases.

Ben Vartok

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With metal horses I bend all the tails down to reduce or eliminate the overhang. You could possibly heat the Victrix Tails and bend them in the same fashion. I would also make the comment that bigger bases can cause perception issues for an opponent. I personally have found it hard when judging how much space there is in a situation and remembering that some bases are smaller.